Unknown gunmen have attacked ECWA church in Kogi State, killed one person and kidnapped two others.

The Church is located at Okadayo-Kabba, along Okene road, in Kogi State.

The attack is coming barely few days after a jailbreak at the Federal minimum correctional centre located in Kabba and the abduction of three poultry farmers in their farm, all in the same area.

DAILY POST gathered that the yet to be identified gunmen opened fire on the worshippers as church service was going on, killing one person on the spot.

 An eyewitness, who pleaded anonymity, said two other person who were shot are currently receiving treatment in an undisclosed hospital.

According to him, the Pioneer Provost of College of Education Technical Kabba, Chief J.O.T Oshadumo and one other were kidnapped, while his wife and some students sustained gun shot wounds.

The Chairman of Kabba-Bunu Local Government, Moses Olorunleke who confirmed this to DAILY POST, said details of the attack would be made public soon.

Efforts to get more information from the Police Public Relations Officer, DSP William Aya, proved difficult as he was said to be in church.


Philippine boxer-turned-politician Manny Pacquiao declared Sunday he will run for president in 2022, ending months of speculation about whether the legendary fighter would seek the country’s top job.

“The time is now — we are ready to rise to the challenge of leadership,” said Pacquiao, as he accepted the nomination of a rival faction in President Rodrigo Duterte’s ruling party. 

The eight-division world champion and beloved national hero made the announcement weeks after losing what could be his last professional fight against Cuban Yordenis Ugas in Las Vegas. 

Pacquiao, who entered politics in 2010 as a congressman before being elected to the Senate, has long been expected to make a tilt for the country’s highest office.

The 42-year-old is deeply admired in the archipelago nation for his generosity and hauling himself out of poverty to become one of the world’s greatest and wealthiest boxers.

His boxing credentials along with fighting poverty and corruption are likely to be the key themes of his campaign. 

“For those asking what are my qualifications, have you ever experienced hunger?” Pacquiao asked the national assembly held by the anti-Duterte faction of PDP-Laban.

“Have you ever experienced having nothing to eat, to borrow money from your neighbours or to wait for leftovers at a food stall? The Manny Pacquiao that is in front of you was moulded by poverty.”


A former Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria, Dr. Obadiah Mailafia, has passed on at the age of 64.

Mailafia, who was a columnist with The PUNCH was said to have died at midnight after a brief illness.

The former deputy governor, who was the Presidential candidate of the African Democratic Congress in the 2019 election, was a known government critic and had advocated for public sector and exchange rate reforms.

Mailafia was born on December 24, 1956, in the Sanga Local Government Area of Kaduna State.

He later graduated top of his class at Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria, in 1978 with a B.Sc.

Honours Social Sciences degree (Politics, Economics, and Sociology). He also has an M.Sc. from the same institution.

He subsequently won a French Government Scholarship to France, where he earned a Certificate in French Language and Civilisation from the University of Clermont-Ferrand in 1985.

Mailafia later proceeded to the United Kingdom as a Foreign and Commonwealth Office Scholar at Oriel College, earning a DPhil from the University of Oxford in 1995.

He joined partisan politics in 2018 amid the rising killings in Southern Kaduna.

Despite losing, he remained an ardent government critic and got into trouble with the regime of the President, Major General Muhammadu Buhari (retd.), when he alleged that a northern governor was a Boko Haram commander.

This earned multiple invitations by the Nigeria Police Force, forcing him to recant his statement.

In his last interview with The PUNCH, Mailafia said the refusal of the CBN to sell foreign exchange to bureau de change operators may not yield the expected result because corrupt bankers would frustrate it while the BDC operators were being shielded by a “Jigawa cabal”.

He had also lamented that Nigeria was operating a “dollarised” economy which was hampering economic growth.



The Federal Government has lifted the ban placed on flights coming into the country from India.

The government had banned passengers, who visited India, Brazil, South Africa, and Turkey in the last 14 days from entering the country as part of precautionary measures to contain the virus in the country.

But in the new travel protocol released on Sunday, the Chairman, Presidential Steering Committee on COVID-19, Boss Mustapha, indicated that the ban placed on passengers from India has been lifted.

The reviewed protocol took effect from September 14, 2021.

However, the sanctions placed on airlines that convey passengers from restricted countries and travellers who are Non-Nigerians remain.

Mustapha said, “Non-Nigerian passport holders and non-residents who visited Brazil, Turkey or South Africa within 14 days preceding travel to Nigeria, shall be denied entry into Nigeria. This regulation, however, does not apply to passengers who transited through these countries.

“Airlines who fail to comply shall mandatorily pay a penalty of $3,500 defaulting passenger; and non-Nigerians will be denied entry and returned to the country of embarkation at cost to the Airline; Nigerians and those with a permanent resident permit who visited Brazil, Turkey, and South Africa within 14 days preceding travel to Nigeria shall be made to undergo seven days of mandatory quarantine in a Government approved facility at the point-of-entry city and at cost to the passenger.

“The following conditions shall apply to such passengers: Within 24 hours of arrival shall take a COVID-19 PCR test;
ii. If Positive, the passenger shall be admitted within a government-approved treatment centre, in line with national treatment protocols; and
iii. If Negative, the Passenger shall continue to remain in quarantine and made to undergo a repeat PCR test on Day-7 of their quarantine.

“False declaration: passenger(s) who provided false or misleading contact information will be liable to prosecution; and person(s) who willfully disregard or refuse to comply with directions of Port-Health staff, security agencies or evade quarantine shall be prosecuted in accordance with the law

“This protocol comes into effect from 14th September 2021.”

He said before departure from exit country, passengers must perform a COVID-19 PCR test not more than three days before boarding, adding that the PCR tests done more than 72 hours before departure are not valid and persons will not be allowed to board.

The PSC chairman stressed that airlines have been directed not to board passengers with non-PCR COVID-19 tests (such as antigen/or antibody tests), a positive COVID-19 PCR test result, or tests performed beyond 72 hours of boarding.

He added, “Airlines that board passengers without any of the TWO documents (a negative COVID-19 PCR test done not more than 72 hours prior to boarding and a Permit to Travel Certificate/QR code), shall be sanctioned as follows: passengers, who are Non-Nigerians, will be refused entry and returned to the point of embarkation at a cost to the airline;

“Passengers who are Nigerians or holders of a permanent resident permit will be allowed entry but subjected to the procedure outlined in Section D.

“In addition, passengers arriving with forged (fake) COVID-19 PCR results shall be referred for prosecution; airlines shall be fined $3,500 per passenger.”

He said all passengers arriving in Nigeria will be required to go through the routine Port Health screening and present electronic or print-out evidence of pre-boarding COVID-19 PCR test and the Permit to Travel Certificate/QR Code as well as Present their international passports for clearance through the Nigerian Immigration Service System’s Migrants Identification Data Analysis System.


Police in the FCT say they have arrested two suspects in Abuja over “one chance’’ con trap, rescued a female victim and recovered N401,000.

Police Public Relations Officer in the FCT, DSP Josephine Adeh, made the disclosure in a statement issued in Abuja on Sunday.

“One chance’’ is a crime in which assailants pose as cab drivers and passengers, take victims, particularly female commuters into their cabs and dispossess them of their valuables.

DSP Adeh said the suspects in this instance were arrested by operatives of Wuse Division of the police on “stop-and-search’’ duty to specially look out for victims of “one-chance’’ criminals.

She stated that exhibits recovered from the suspects were one black Toyota Corolla car, their operational vehicle, N401,000, Point-of-Sale machine, four mobile phones, two sharp knives, ropes, foreign currency notes and duct tape.

She said preliminary investigations by the police revealed that the two suspects posed as taxi driver and passenger waiting to pick other passengers.

“In this instance, the suspects picked up the victim who had just closed from work.

“On their way to her destination, the assailants locked the car, changed the route, tied her up and demanded for her ATM card.

“They also threatened to rape and kill her if she doesn’t cooperate with them,” she stated.

She said N391,000 was withdrawn from the victim’s account via ATM and POS transactions, adding that the N10,000 cash in her possession was also collected.

Adeh added that one of the suspects, who tried to evade arrest, was intercepted by the Commissioner of Police in charge of FCT, Mr Sunday Babaji, who was also, on routine confidence building patrol around the axis.

She stated that Mr Babaji pledged the commitment of the command to curtail the activities of “one chance’’ and other criminal elements in the FCT.

He enjoined residents to continue to support the police, particularly, by reporting all suspicious movements, emergencies and distresses, through 08032003913, 08061581938, 07057337653 and 08028940883.

Babaji also pledged to ensure diligent investigations and prosecution of the suspects.

He warned all perpetrators of “one-chance’’ and other forms of crimes and criminality within the FCT to desist forthwith, adding that, the law would surely catch up with them. 


Sunday, 19 September 2021 13:11

Sex life goes beyond the bedroom— Eva Adaeze

Vivacious plus-size model and brand influencer, Eva Adaeze, known on Instagram as @theevaofficial has bared her mind on the issue of sex and marriage.

The multi-dimensional curvy beauty who graduated from Enugu State University of Science and Technology, told Potpourri that sex goes beyond the bedroom and should mean much more to lovers and married couples.

“I think the mental and physical benefits of a healthy sex life goes beyond your bedroom. In my opinion, sex makes you happier,there’s even a physiological reason as to why an orgasm makes you blissful. There are many healthy benefits of sex, therefore it should be had as often as one can,” she said.

As a girl with high moral values, brought up in a good Christian home, she believes a woman should never cheat in a marriage but advised that before marriage she should have explored her partner deep enough to know what lies in wait for her in marriage sexually.

“I think that cheating in whatever form in marriage is totally unacceptable. Marriage is for better or for worse . This is why couples still courting are advised to explore the abilities of their partners all round before getting married” she intoned.

Eva has blossoming interests on Instagram which include her @letsgo_lagos,, @thecurvyplanet.


Big Brother Naija, BBNaija, housemates, WhiteMoney and Queen seem to be getting closer to each other more than friends.


The ‘Shine Ya Eye’ housemates on Saturday night were seen dancing together almost all through the night at the party arena.


It didn’t end there as they went to the garden after the party and had a passionate kiss.


Queen sitting on WhiteMoney’s legs kissed him passionately.


Recall that Queen had confronted WhiteMoney Over his closeness with Jackie B.


According to her, WhiteMoney’s closeness with Jackie B will affect their relationship and she was not comfortable with it.


it is not certain if WhiteMoney is moving closer to Queen because Jackie B is out of the house or he has finally decided to explore a relationship with Queen.


Meanwhile, Queen and WhiteMoney were saved from possible eviction this Sunday after WhiteMoney emerged as the head of house.


Those up for possible eviction today are Cross, Saskay, Yousef, Emmanuel and Angel.


At least, one of the aforementioned housemates will exit the show during the live eviction show Sunday evening.





President Muhammadu Buhari (PMB) shocked most Nigerians when he said those agitating for restructuring and secession were not only naive, but “mischievously dangerous”.



He made the statement through the Executive Secretary, Revenue Mobilisation and Fiscal Commission, Alhaji Mohammed Bello Shehu, in Zaria, at the Kudirat Abiola Sabon Gari Peace Foundation.


I was certainly not one of those Nigerians who were shocked. I was not because as a close monitor and commentator on national and international affairs, I didn’t expect anything more from him.


My thesis is simple, not rocket science: a leopard cannot change its spots. Buhari said he did not understand what the restructure proponents want, or what is to be restructured. Buhari erroneously believes that the problem of Nigeria is how to make Local Governments functional and the Judiciary independent.


As important as these are, President Buhari has merely seen the smaller picture, rather than the larger picture, as President of a hemorrhaging country yearning for urgent rescue.



So, for those Nigerians who had heaved a little sight of relief last week on the little tokenism conceded by Buhari, I sympathize with you.


During his democracy day address to Nigerians on 12th June, 2021, Buhari had appeared to understand Nigerians’ pains, agony and genuine yearning for restructuring.


He had said amongst others, that he was not unaware of misgivings causing national discontent in different parts of the country, including allegations of marginalisation and Constitution amendment.


While saying efforts were on to address these “challenges that this period imposes on us”, Buhari had said government was “willing to play a critical role in the constitutional amendment process without usurping the powers of the National Assembly in this regard”.


He has believed that with this process, “we can come out stronger”. President Buhari’s summersault in just one week has therefore shocked most Nigerians. Suddenly, in Zaria, he beat the drums of War, in a speech that is as provocative as it is unpresidential and unstatemanly.


He berated those who are “calling for restructuring and conference or what they call ethnic nationality”.



Wrongly believing that Nigerians and the youth who daily agitate for a better Nation, including during the #Endsars peaceful protests are simply separatist secession advocates, who wanted to overthrow his lack lustra government, and describing them as “naive and mischievously dangerous” , because they are “ignorant of war and its consequences”,


Buhari challenged parents to “try and educate their children”. But, Buhari sorely missed the critical issues at stake. He appeared frighteningly ignorant of the dire need for attitudinal change in his strong arm tactics when he declared imperiously like Louis X1V of France, “there is no way we can separate as a country”.


Read this around: Nigerians must stay together, whether things are working or not; agitations or no agitations; disaffection or no disaffection; social justice or no social justice; security or no security. 

A leader does not dictate to his people as to what they want. Just like the tail does not wag the dog.


It is the people that tell their leaders their desires. Buhari daily reminds us of the immortal words of Thomas Jefferson: “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.


The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”.


Said John Maxwell: “Leaders must be close enough to relate to others but far enough ahead to motivate them”. Buhari does neither. He is distant to and disconnected from his people. He does not care; does not listen to their cries, woes, pains, pangs, tears, sorrow and blood. He cares not about their genuine yearnings and desires.


Buhari erroneously believes he knows what the 211 million Nigerian populace wants. He is making a grave mistake. No ruler in history has ever perpetually dictated to, or held down his people with sheer jackboot. Musolini woefully failed, just like Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin, Stalin and Lenin.


Ask the bones of Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Pinochet, Gheghis Khan, Pol Pot and Kim Jong. They will tell Buhari how and why they failed miserably to dictate to their citizens forever. Aside self-determination agitating groups (a concept recognised anyway by the UNO, EU, AU, etc), I have not seen nor heard leaders of the ethnic nationalities in Nigeria ask for outright balkanization of Nigeria.


What I hear them say in the South, North, East and West (and which I have also crusaded for over three decades) , is restructuring, total devolution of powers and renegotiation of our suffocating Union ,to enthrone social justice, equity, egalitarianism and mutual religious and inter-ethnic tolerance and respect.



They talk about re-engineering the week fabric of Nigeria to make her stay together as a country.


Now this


Buhari must learn from history. Let me give some samples of nations that were once together and have today gone their separate ways. Kosovo, Serbia and Montenegro used to be one country.


Today, they are separate and independent. The Republic of Venezuela was reformed in 1999 with a brand new Constitution as Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. South Sudan declared independence from Sudan in July, 2011.


In February, 2008, Kosovo declared independence from Serbia. East Timor or Timor-Liste achieved independence from Indonesia in May, 2002. Palau, with a population of slightly over 21,000 (less than a local government in Nigeria) became independent from Micronesia on October 1, 1994.


In the same 1994, Eritrea broke away from Ethiopia after a Haile Selassie- sustained 30-year bloody civil war. In January, 1991, Czechoslovakia was peacefully dissolved by Parliament into Slovakia and Czech Republic. Quebec held a referendum to break away from Canada in 1995.


The former USSR broke into 15 Republics of Russia, Georgia, Belarusia, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Latvia, Tajikistan, Lithuania, Estonia and Kyrgzstan.


Some of these countries like Estonia (1.92m) are less than two million in population; less than the population of the smallest state in Nigeria. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh used to be one country.


Help me remind President Buhari that many countries of the world enthroned a new Constitutional order by enacting brand new Constitutions after referenda of the people. Examples are Egypt (2012), South Africa (1999) , Morocco (2011) , Kenya (2010), Eritrea (1994), Iraq (1979), Iran (1979) , Bangladesh (1991), Tunisia (2014) and USA (1787).


Help me tell President Buhari that he should struggle hard within his remaining two years in office to force himself into the pantheon of great statesmen in history; not better forgotten dictators, absolutists and tyrants. I wish Nigeria well, or what remains of her. Amen.


And this Crack your ribs Week after week henceforth, this column will deliberately include short bites on some sounds and bites.


It would include jokes (to soothe our aching nerves); philosophical platitudes (to redirect our steps);   and scriptural quotes (to pave the way to eternity). We commence this week.


“Do we still have time to laff??? Sisi Ibadan don come again this month o!


  1. Thank God for a brown new month! (Yellow nko?)


  1. My god is upsome. (L’o ba tan!)


  2. Why are people so weekend? (cos they are Friday na ni)


  1. Not all dat glitters is goat! (Some are actually rabbits!)


  2. Majority carries the volt (Transformer nko, who wan carry dat one?)


  1. May your name be highly exhausted. (Eewo!)


  1. My waste is paining me. (U never see natin!)


  1. Thank God for spearing my life (He will soon dagger it)


  1. What is strong with you? (strong ko, weak ni. Olodo!)


  1. Lord, you are the killer dat holds my knife! (Yeepa!)


  1. Pls, how much is ur age? (U wan buy?)


  1. Look to the window, the principal just passed away (sebi na u kill am.)


  1. Lord let ur wheel be done… (Hin wheelbarrow spoil b4?)”.


“Fight between husband and wife (both are M.A. in English literature).


Instead of shouting, abusing or physical force….


They exchange poems to each other.


Wife: I wrote your name on sand, it got washed…  I wrote your name in the air, it was blown away.


Then I wrote your name on my heart and I got heart attack.


Husband: God saw me hungry, He created pizza. He saw me thirsty, He created Pepsi. He saw me in the dark, He created light. He saw me without problems, He created YOU.


Wife: Twinkle, twinkle little star You should know what you are And once you know what you are Mental Hospital is not so far.


Husband: The rains make all things beautiful.  The grass and flowers too. If rain makes all things beautiful Why doesn’t it rain on you?


Wife: Roses are red, violets are blue Monkeys like you should be kept in zoo.


Husband: Don’t feel so angry you will find me there too Not in a cage but laughing at you!”.


Thought for the week


“To be a good citizen, it’s important to be able to put yourself in other people’s shoes and see the big picture. If everything you see is rooted in your own identity that becomes difficult or impossible”. (Eli Pariser).



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Doyin Okupe, an ex-media aide to the former president, Goodluck Jonathan, has warned that the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), will lose the 2023 presidential election if they present a candidate from the north.


He stated this while speaking to journalists in Abuja on Saturday.

Okupe claimed PDP’s zoning arrangement ended with the 2019 presidential election but that some people within the party are insisting on presenting a northerner for the 2023 poll.

According to him, some politicians were defecting from the opposition party, because of the insistence on a northerner as presidential candidate.

“The zoning arrangement which the PDP started in 1998 was based on the assumption that the party will be in power consistently but the moment it lost power in 2015, automatically the arrangement has to be reviewed in view of the development

“When the PDP lost power, there was a southern president in power. If the party didn’t lose power and completed in 2019, zoning would kick in and power would have shifted to the North.


“However, the party that won the election presented a northern candidate who by 2023 would have ruled for eight years.

“We still carried on as if the former arrangement was still in place in 2019 and it was justifiable because within the PDP at that time for us to put forward a northern candidate.

“In 2023, with APC having ruled for eight years with a northern candidate, it will be preposterous, unjust, uncaring, and blatant for the PDP to zone the presidential ticket to the north because the arrangement expired the moment our party lost power in 2019.

“There should be a reset of the zoning arrangement in 2023. It does not make sense to replace a northern government of eight years with another northern government for another eight years, it doesn’t make sense.

“That is why the PDP should zone the presidency to the South. The southern governors who are the leaders of the South had spoken, we should listen to them.


“It will be folly, reckless and insensitive for any political party to ignore the position of the southern governors

“Some people who think they control wealth are talking within the party while reasonable and strong men are keeping quiet. Some are being given money to keep quiet.

“The struggle between Secondus and Wike is unnecessary. It ought not to have degenerated to this level. Our party may lose again if we zone the presidency to the North again in 2023,” Okupe said.




Sheikh Ahmed Abubakar Mahmood Gumi has been consistent in his quest for dialogue and amnesty with bandits, killing and kidnapping Nigerians. In this interview with  NewTelegraph, the retired military officer disclosed that many of those against dialogue did not really understand what was happening





As a retired military officer, how do you view this continuous attack on Nigeria by terrorists?


Before you make any judgment on anything, you have to understand the theology, mechanism and circumstances. When you don’t have this information at your disposal, you will make a blunder in trying to address the issue.


What we are seeing and calling banditry, yes, we see banditry, but the person doing it is not seeing or doing banditry. Just look at it from both sides. There are fighting a system that has long neglected the people, neglected them and they are fighting back.


You know many of them are illiterates and the only wealth they have is the cow. They are reacting to the society that has been unfair to them.


How do you cure this by increasingly being unfair or by bringing them close, pacifying them, tame them like a lion. I am trying to tame a lion, a wild animal, that is what I am trying to do. Not to excite it to cause more damage.


Another point I want people to understand is, when you have people, one, two, three up to ten, armed robbers or bandits, we understand they are criminals but, these bandits we are talking, they have more than documented 63 leaders. We are talking about 63 groups of not less than 100 and we are still calling these banditry? They are reacting but this is a kind of insurgency. But not against the state! But reacting, just like the IPOB.


Are they not reacting? Their reaction is separation. Sunday Igboho is reacting but his reaction is separation. Boko Haram is reacting but theirs is religious separation. Boko Haram did not take up weapons until they killed their leaders summarily.


They were killed on camera. So, they said no more negotiations. We will revenge. So, how can we trigger a reaction, and then we think the solution is the same way we trigger a reaction is the cure.


How to pursue them? It is not every conflict that has a military solution, especially a conflict that was started by the military or the security agencies. The solution has to be political, social or economic because like Boko Haram, they killed Yusuf.


There was widespread unemployment among the youths. So, there was the resistance to the army. You know any movement among the youths grows like wildfire. You get a rifle and it makes you feel important like the soldiers. Like the kidnapping started with Boko Haram, they have been kidnapping people for long.


So, the children taught they now have a job. You know youthful delinquency? With Boko Haram, they taught we are respected and feared. With Nigerians, we are unemployed.


So, we have to look at that, look at these factors. If we had addressed the issue of poverty seriously, people feel the impact of the economy, constructions, business, they will leave Boko Haram. The same thing with the Fulani herdsmen.


From all that you have said and seen, what do all these mean for the north and Nigeria as a whole?


Yes, that is why I am looking for a permanent solution to this banditry, and that solution is to accommodate them and redirect them. Human beings can bring a lion, tame the lion, and make it a friend of the human being without eaten him. We have the country, the population to tame these people.


But if we say we want to fight them, we don’t have the force to fight them. Why? Because they are widespread.

They are not in one place. Which army can you employ? You will exhaust them and let us not forget, Boko Haram is not yet finished. Only that they had a disarray when they lost their godfather and leader, Shekau and they are not well accepted by ISWAP.


So, they feel disoriented and feel since they is a safe corridor for food and education. Even the army is now talking about the carrot and not the power and this was the same thing I said.


Herdsmen, let us show sympathy for their plight and also educate them. What they are doing is crime not only against humanity but God and that was why I went to them with books.


Books I translated into the Fulani language, to tell them it is wrong to steal, fornicate, deceive and cheat. I talk to them, the way I am talking to you. I also tell them let’s take your complains to the society.


But your efforts have not been looked at in a positive way. Many people have sort of misunderstood what you are doing?


I know and I quiet understand that, I am not surprised and I don’t feel anything against anybody even those who abuse me. I don’t feel anything because I know that they don’t know what I know.



What is your take on the recent attack at NDA and even the abduction of an Emir in the state?


Honestly, when we speak with these people, they said they would give us respite, and stop hostilities, but the hostilities from the government did not stop.


The aerial bombardment did not stop, the pronouncement did not stop, shoot at sight, kill anyone you see with a rifle. But even you, if you spend one day in the bush, you will need a rifle, even if you are not a criminal, because if you do not have a rifle a criminal will attack you.


These things should be gradual. The political atmosphere was very toxic in promoting peace- don’t negotiate, kill them; they are thieves, these and that. Some people want me to be saying criminals but I said no, I am very careful about saying criminality, because I am trying to build confidence. I understand what you are doing but it is wrong.


This is not how to do it. It is the same thing with government. When it is tackling a problem wrongly, you speak. What we are trying to do is get their confidence, so that they can have trust in us. Then, we can show them the way out.




Is that the basis for your call for amnesty against the use of force by the government?


Let me tell you why we are pursuing am-    nesty. When I tell them why won’t you stop, drop your weapons and embrace peace, they said if we drop our weapons, they will come and arrest us and execute us. That is why we are talking about amnesty and this amnesty means, they will not be arrested.


Also, the whole package of rehabilitating them and bringing them out to the society. Do you know when they is a budget distribution, the herdsmen have little or nothing at all from it. Myself, if I ply Abuja – Kano road, I am enjoying the road construction.


If I have light now,I am enjoying what government is spending on light. If I go to the hospital, I am enjoying the amenities. My children are in the university. They are enjoying the education. What are the herdsmen enjoying from the Nigerian government?


Nothing! So do some projects for them to feel they are part of the society. You know the Fulani man is a shy man. They have hierarchy and respect like the Yoruba.

This Sunday Igboho, if high ranking Yoruba leaders call him and say stop this, would he not stop? It is the same thing with these people. Look, bring the real actors and tell them stop these things, they will stop it, but when the elders will not.


Would it be right to then say that the quest for power by northern leaders instead of the socio-economic development of the region is a contributory factor to what is happening?



What you are saying is not a question. This is a correct statement and it is true. Actually, what have they been doing?


The most important thing you can give a human being is education and who is concerned about education, educating the masses? So, there is a problem. So, now,


we are harvesting what we sow and attacking them militarily will be worse. It will compound the issue because they can likely join themselves with terrorists groups.


What actions do you think should be taken against the sponsors of bandits and those who benefit from what is happening


? You see, before now, it started as a crime by criminals but in trying to tackle these criminals, it crossed the boundary and they stated attacking innocent herdsmen and they become victims of profiling, victims of everything and they are now fighting for survival.


The best way now is what I am doing-the stick and carrot approach. I know as a government, they have to show their strength. I know and nobody argues about that.


But also we have to go in, bring them out, dialogue with them, pacify them, do whatever it is that will make them feel there is need for them to drop their weapons and we have seen their reactions that they are willing. Just imagine.


I heard the Governor of Zamfara State saying that a high level delegation of Fulani herdsmen came to him to say there should be a ceasefire after this recent incursion and he said no, this is time for war. He does not differentiate between battle and war. You know you can win a battle but you can lose the war, or is he not thinking it is a war?


With what is happening across the country, do you really think President Muhammadu Buhari is really in charge of governance and fulfilling his electoral promises?


I think President Buhari is in charge. What I think is that he is not in charge of the situation but he is in charge of his mode of governance. He is governing the way he likes and nobody can approach him with a contrary opinion.


Just look at the issue of herdsmen. I have been trying to get across to him to sit down with him, so that he can understand directly what is happening. Because myself, I did not understand the situation until I went into the bush to speak with them man to man.


Then, I understood. If you depend only on what is written in the security reports, if security reports are always correct, no coup will happen. Recently, there was coup in Guinea. Security reports are usually embellished, and he is the man who stays and depends on what he reads.


He does not have people outside the system who speak with him, honestly and directly. Whoever gets close to him knows what he wants to hear and tells him what he wants.


With the agitations all across the country, and insecurity, don’t you think Nigeria may collapse after Buhari?


No, Nigeria will not collapse. Nigeria is so stable. All that is happening is just like a tempest in a cup of tea. Look, there was an election in 2019. The Igbo came out in millions to vote; the North, they have representatives, Senators. Yoruba people came out in their millions to vote and they have representatives, the same in the north. Even this Fulani people you are seeing, when it was election time, they stopped fighting and voted.


So, Nigerian democracy is stable. In fact, no military can even think of any coup like they did in Guinea. It will fail. Military coup will fail because the dynamics is changing.


The Orkar coup did not succeed because you cannot use power. No military man can take power in Nigeria, especially with these herdsmen, Boko Haram, IPOB, no one can take power through the military might. It is impossible.


So, we have no option than to practice democracy. The only thing is that we have to educate our people. I go there to educate these people so that we can have prosperity.

Look at the sit at home by IPOB, who is cheating who? They are cheating themselves. They will lose market. They will lose billions and even now, if people want to do business or any foreign investment, they will not go there. If Sunday Igboho had continued with what he was doing, people would run away, like they are running away from the north.


So, the polity is there and is not going to be breaking anywhere but the problem is each region is cheating its own self. The herdsmen are cheating us in the north. The Boko Haram members are cheating people in Maiduguri. IPOB is cheating the Igbo.


Sunday Igboho is cheating the Yoruba because if you are going nowhere and you can do nothing. Nobody can break Nigeria like that.


How would you access the role of state governors in the war against terror? Are they meeting up with their role as chief security officers?


No, they have not been able to meet up, not at all. They have not met up to the expectations of those that voted them into power. But for me, I am more concerned about their affluence in the ocean of abject poverty. I don’t want to see a governor flying a plane.


He should ride in a car. If he knows what he is doing, talkless of going to Dubai, Britain. You will see them and their children. How can you leave other children at home here and you are celebrating that your child has graduated from UK? Which kind of irresponsibility and insensitivity of governance is that?


What impact do you think, the return of the Taliban to power in Afghanistan have on global insurgency? Is Nigeria at risk?


Nigeria is at risk. Just like Boko Haram surrendering, the return of the Taliban will be like, they will be saying maybe, if we stay a little bit longer. I know the mind of the terrorists.


He is so parochial and stupid. But the coming back of the Taliban this time is different from the first time. They have instituted changes. The modern terrorists groups will find that it is not easy to maintain their hard-line stand. You will have to civilise yourself. You will have to accept diversity. You will have to give people their rights.


They are also coming to the centre gradually and I think it is a good omen because it will reduce sharply, this fanatic lines, dogmatism, about religious issues that are not supposed to be, because religion is easy. Allah will not ask you what you cannot do. So, just do what you can do and leave the rest to God.


Why has the military failed to make huge success, in spite of the serious amount of money spent in the fight in the last 11 years?


I heard almost N6 trillion has been spent so far on security, fighting terrorism. There was a businessman who came to me and said if he is given one trillion naira, in the spate of three months, Nigeria will know there is money in Nigeria. Why? Because I am going to institute low cost houses in Nigeria, to provide houses to the looming population.


One trillion is a big money. What more of six trillion? If that money is spent on education, welfare, health and food, all these agitations will disappear. But where is the money? I heard our g o v e r n o r when he was in t h e o p – position, saying categorically that the money spent by the Jonathan administration in fighting Boko Haram ends up in the pocket of generals, who are building choice houses in Abuja. So, what is the difference today?


Sir, it was said that majority of our revenue in Nigeria is being used to service debts. Where do we go from here?


I read an article somewhere that they were surprised that Nigeria is pursuing policies that are not only archaic, but have been tested and failed in other countries. But our country is pursuing those same economic policies and these policies have not changed. So, this is a government that is zero in terms of the economy.


This government first and second term is zero in terms of the economy. In terms of growing and building the economy, they don’t have the knowhow. Nobody in that government knows how to grow the economy and equitable distribution of wealth.


They have been distributing money like the trader money and N-power but to their cronies. The ordinary Nigerians did not get it. All these money you are giving out, the herdsmen are hearing it but there is nothing about them. All these incentives for farmers, nothing for herdsmen.


All the loans, nothing for them and yet you are sending the military after them. They don’t even have clean drinking water. They drink from the same stream where animals drink. So, it is a combined failure of governance that we are seeing. It did not start with this regime. It has been there all along. I cannot exonerate any government.


The only government that tried to look into the issue of herdsmen was the Ibrahim Babangida regime. We have to be fair to him. His time, if you check, there was no any agitation. Not one person will say he was kidnapped by herdsmen. Kidnapping then was done by city dwellers.


With the poverty in the land, which people say is contributing to the insecurity, what can government do differently?


The economy is the most important part of what is happening today. Even Bill Gates was here in Aso Rock and told them that government spending on human and capital development was so low.


Why are our universities complaining? Why are our doctors running away or these human services are not getting enough money?


This is a government that is building expressways, railways. What they called infrastructure is what is good for Nigeria. I went by road from Ilorin to Ilesha. People are suffering. Railway is good but serves very few.


These roads you see interconnecting villages, the are the most important because farmers can easily go to their farm and take the products back to the city. Only few Nigerians use railway. Many of them are on the highways. Maybe, only one per cent of Nigerians use the airport but these feeder roads are the most important but they are in a terrible situation. I went from Zamfara to Zuru. The road is terrible I went to Kontagora when we were going into the bush. The road is terrible.


With all these journeys you are making, are you not afraid of the insecurity?


Normally, we don’t move in the night and we move in convoy but still we are predisposed to the insecurity but what I tell myself is even if you sit at home, you are liable to be attacked at home.


So, I feel I should travel and see if I can salvage something and my going out has taught me a lot. I have a vision now. If I have the power, just one month, this problem will disappear.


These people kidnapping people, I sent them a word; come, I want to talk to you. They all came and they listened with rapt attention and they said ‘this is our grievances and I said okay my only handicap is for the government to listen and do it.’


So, if I have the power, in one month, they will stop. It is that simple. So it is poor governance that is prolonging this issue. Even this IPOB, if you gather all the Igbo leaders and say let us dialogue, it will be solved.



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